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	<title>Comments on: City Council Work Session &#8211; Monday, May 11, 2009, 7:00 p.m.</title>
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		<title>By: Jane McWiliams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane McWiliams</dc:creator>
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		<description>Good questions, Kiffi. I agree, it would be good for the board to talk about the observer program and to review whatever policies we have for observers and evaluate the program. That would provide welcome direction to at least one observer - me!

I have been operating under the assumption that my reports here should be as factual as I can make them, and that there should be no options or judgments in them. On the other hand, as observer, if I see things at council meetings which I think may be of concern to LWV members, be they procedural or in the context of our adopted positions, I should notify the president who will take the matter up with the board.( An example is the concern I had with the report of the council&#039;s subcommittee dealing with boards and committees. Nothing has come of that effort, either within or outside the League, however.)

I doubt that many people actually read these reports, so one might ask what their value is even as quasi- journalistic pieces. It has been a good discipline for me, taking notes and then writing up the report - but that seems a bit self-indulgent! It is possible that having Georgiana at the Rice Councy Commissioners&#039; meetings, and either you or me at City Council meetings, providing a kind of consistent citizen presence,  affects the conduct of the elected officials&#039; business - but I often wonder about that!

The League&#039;s Annual Meeting is often the time when such organizational issues are raised and discussed, but this year&#039;s wasn&#039;t set up for that purpose. Maybe, if the board is holding a planning retreat this spring, we could ask them to take up your questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions, Kiffi. I agree, it would be good for the board to talk about the observer program and to review whatever policies we have for observers and evaluate the program. That would provide welcome direction to at least one observer &#8211; me!</p>
<p>I have been operating under the assumption that my reports here should be as factual as I can make them, and that there should be no options or judgments in them. On the other hand, as observer, if I see things at council meetings which I think may be of concern to LWV members, be they procedural or in the context of our adopted positions, I should notify the president who will take the matter up with the board.( An example is the concern I had with the report of the council&#8217;s subcommittee dealing with boards and committees. Nothing has come of that effort, either within or outside the League, however.)</p>
<p>I doubt that many people actually read these reports, so one might ask what their value is even as quasi- journalistic pieces. It has been a good discipline for me, taking notes and then writing up the report &#8211; but that seems a bit self-indulgent! It is possible that having Georgiana at the Rice Councy Commissioners&#8217; meetings, and either you or me at City Council meetings, providing a kind of consistent citizen presence,  affects the conduct of the elected officials&#8217; business &#8211; but I often wonder about that!</p>
<p>The League&#8217;s Annual Meeting is often the time when such organizational issues are raised and discussed, but this year&#8217;s wasn&#8217;t set up for that purpose. Maybe, if the board is holding a planning retreat this spring, we could ask them to take up your questions.</p>
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		<title>By: kiffisumma</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiffisumma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane: I was also at this meeting, as you know, and this would be a good way to see if people are reading these observer reports, and what actual service they are providing...
We have talked many times about the content of the reports and how it should be presented... The person who attends for the League is called an &#039;observer&#039;, but mostly we report.

What is the most helpful position ?  is  it strict reportage, or is there a minimum of interpretation  as to what League members should be looking at, or interested in?

If League&#039;s mission is concerned with &#039;best practices&#039; how can observers steer  League members to issues of concern without being accused of prejudicial thinking?
You and I have had these conversations; is there a way to engage the membership/board on these issues, on this site?

Maybe it should be a Board discussion first? or would the Board prefer the initial comments come up from the general membership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane: I was also at this meeting, as you know, and this would be a good way to see if people are reading these observer reports, and what actual service they are providing&#8230;<br />
We have talked many times about the content of the reports and how it should be presented&#8230; The person who attends for the League is called an &#8216;observer&#8217;, but mostly we report.</p>
<p>What is the most helpful position ?  is  it strict reportage, or is there a minimum of interpretation  as to what League members should be looking at, or interested in?</p>
<p>If League&#8217;s mission is concerned with &#8216;best practices&#8217; how can observers steer  League members to issues of concern without being accused of prejudicial thinking?<br />
You and I have had these conversations; is there a way to engage the membership/board on these issues, on this site?</p>
<p>Maybe it should be a Board discussion first? or would the Board prefer the initial comments come up from the general membership.</p>
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